E-Dribble

Good intentions only get you so far.

by schwim on Feb.05, 2010, under Software

In the case of Firefox, it seems to be a case of diminishing returns.

Let me just say before starting this that I love Firefox.  The ridiculously large number of addons are the biggest draw for me with standards compliance coming in at a close second.  Recently though, the ballooning of the browser has been getting in the way of my productivity.  It’s become fucking slow, for one.  The browser is beginning to take as long to start as the operating system itself.  Secondly, I’ve started having problems with flash inside the browser.  Other browsers are using the same flash plugin without issue, so I have to assume that it’s Firefox botching the implementation of it.

As often happens with me, I began grazing upon browsers in search of greener pastures.  Almost always, this ends up with me back at the application I started with, but this time may be different.

First, I tried Opera 10. I’ll summarize.

NO.

My sweet Jesus.  For a bunch of super geniuses, they’ve designed the absolute worst UI I have ever been subjected to in a browser.  I might as well use Conkeror.  At least they had the balls to just go ahead and intentionally design a browser around all the things about vi that piss you off. Instead, Opera teases you with buttons and menus then waits until you’ve got seven pop-ups open before you realize they don’t really do anything.  Sucker.

Seriously, since all of the people using Opera are too busy telling you how cool the browser is to develop a single decent ad blocker, you have to add the filters yourself.  Trying to do so in the preferences pane is an exercise in frustration.  Want to copy and paste from an established list on a page in the browser?  Don’t make me laugh.  There will be no interaction with other parts of the browser when this pane is open.  Want to paste more than one at a time?  Don’t make me laugh.

Kazehakase: I think this is a cool browser.  Unfortunately it’s just another open source project with a community too small to develop the things I need.  The core of the browser seems quite buttoned down but I don’t fly without ad blocking and I don’t like not having the ability to turn off j/s based on host.

Chrome:  Here’s the deal.  I tried Chrome a while ago but to be honest, I feel that I already give Google too much information.  If I’m not going to use their nameservers because of this, I’m sure as hell not going to use their browser to parse all content I view on the web. So I downloaded the latest version of Iron, described as Chrome stripped of all it’s data mining abilities. I may have found my new browser.  For starters, it’s incredibly fast.  First start with 15 tabs from previous session is almost immediate. Compare this to the 15-20 seconds it takes Firefox to do the same. Secondly, it’s missing all the useless crap that the Firefox developers have recently begun throwing into their browser in an attempt to make a browser that can do everything up to and including folding your laundry.  Don’t get me wrong, I love features.  I just don’t like the repercussions of when you have too many.

So, I liked Iron, but like I said, I won’t browse the web without ad blocking… Which leads me to Adblock and Adblock+ Element helper. These are not nearly as refined as their Firefox namesake, but they get the job done. The thing I’m having the most problem with is the fact that there is just too much crap in regards to extensions for Chrome.  Everyone has half-assed developed something, they’ve all named it the same thing and all of them used a different Chrome extension site to host it.  Just like adding modules to your Google home page, finding extensions for the browser can be a royal pain in the ass due to the sheer volume of useless shit you have to wade through.

That being said, I’m on day three with Iron.  I’ve not had any of the problems that I have been having with Firefox lately, but there are definitely some foibles.  I sometimes find myself having to refresh certain pages that initially render as completely blank.  It’s happened probably 5 or 6 times in the last three days.

I’m going to miss the remaining extensions that I often use in Firefox.  Time will tell if I miss them enough to take that blimp of a browser back.

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5 Comments for this entry

  • Greg

    Json

    by any chance using Firefox in Ubuntu by any chance? firefox3.7 does seem to be much faster an better than 3.6 an below

    P.S, Nice Site by the way , i like the new Design

  • schwim

    Heya sir,

    Yeah, it’s the Ubu provided ver. I’ve noticed while using Chromium that the flash problem persists, although seems to happen less often(the audio will disappear on all flash apps). The upside to Chromium/Iron/Chrome is that you can exit the app cleanly and restart within seconds while Firefox requires me to find the process and kill it. If I don’t, I’m just told that Firefox is still running.

    I don’t think I’m going to be able to stick with Chromish browsers for the simple fact that I’ve grown too accustomed to a good ad blocker and the ability to selectively enable j/s. After browsing forums that use the contextual pop-up ads, keeping you from hovering your cursor over text while you read is more of a deal breaker for me than I would have initially thought.

    I’m ever hopeful :)

  • Greg

    iv’e heard many having issues with Firefox in Ubuntu lately, my guess its a ubuntu Bug. i don’t know about Chrome. but that browser you mentioned above ” iron ” isnt that based off Chrome? or something like that

  • Greg

    also, Json

    have you tried Opera10.50 beta?

  • schwim

    Iron is an anonymized Chrome. Really not much different from Chromium but with Chromium, you get the absolute latest bells & whistles.

    I’ve got Opera 10.10 right now. I’ve not tried 10.50. Without decent adblocking or js control, I don’t know if there’s a point in trying it(for me, I know that many don’t need that). With the incredibly devout community behind the browser, I’m absolutely flabbergasted that nobody has seen fit to write a single decent addon for either need. I literally found hundreds of posts concerning the desire of having it and not one single acceptable solution. Adsweep(when it’s not abandoned) doesn’t work worth a flip, as I often found myself on broken pages with no content because it didn’t know how to close an element in which it stripped an ad.

    I’m using Swiftfox at the mo, and still dealing with the botched flash, locked ghost processes prohibiting a restart and disappearing navbar items.

    I’m a patient man, however :)

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